@Sader: I see what your point is, and it might be true that the US shouldn't have started there. I think that, after the 9/11 attacks, the US should've tried ...
Muh I'm depressed.. gonna get some alcohol and maybe continue this discussion later
sader wrote: when i was talking about helping the world i wasnt really directing it towards wars at all... i was talking about tsunami relief and things of that nature... America is always there with a lending hand but why should we ever have to do anything for free? there world has never worked like that.... so of course we will help people but there better be something in it for us in the long run... otherwise thats like working for nothing.... and everyone knows that is ridiculous.
JustPopEnrage wrote:Xenomorph wrote: Don't give me the bullshit that 'USA forces democracy upon others'. Last I checked we had to have a war with good old Britain so they'd fuck off and leave us alone.
lolwut? You mean we had a war with Britain because we felt like they should absorb the entire price of fighting a war with the French and Natives and stationing bases all up and down our borders to protect us because we wouldn't stop wandering off into the wilderness? Yeah, we did have a war about that. How is that relevant to the discussion at hand? We didn't try to force democracy on Iraq. We invaded and set up a government that would continue to use the dollar standard for the oil exchange.