The Official Religion Thread

by skylar the strange on 10-18-2009 4:19 pm

I'm Christian.
Born and raised it.
And I believe in God and Jesus.
And I have morals.
Like the 7 deadly sins.
And other things like that.
I don't attend church all that much though but I'm working on that.

And I don't diss other religions.
I have friends of every religion.
Like, seriously.
So I accept everyone.
And I try to spread my religion like a good little Christian but if you absolutely don't believe in it and do not want to then I can't change that.

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by Ningage on 10-18-2009 4:33 pm

skylar the strange wrote: I'm Christian.
Born and raised it.
And I believe in God and Jesus.
And I have morals.
Like the 7 deadly sins.
And other things like that.
I don't attend church all that much though but I'm working on that.

And I don't diss other religions.
I have friends of every religion.
Like, seriously.
So I accept everyone.
And I try to spread my religion like a good little Christian but if you absolutely don't believe in it and do not want to then I can't change that.

Why?
Have you ever thought about it?
Have you ever thought that you were simply a product of social conditioning?

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RE: The Official Religion Thread

by ZoesLover on 10-18-2009 4:35 pm

Now wait for her "God is above our understanding and does everything for a reason" speech

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by skylar the strange on 10-18-2009 4:57 pm

Ok. Why I am a Christian:
Sure, that's what I was taught.
But I have also studied other religions and got to know all their beliefs and all that good stuff.
And I truely within myself believe in the things taught in Christianity and the morals and such.
So no, I'm not going to rant.
Just answer the question.

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by Ningage on 10-18-2009 5:04 pm

skylar the strange wrote: Ok. Why I am a Christian:
Sure, that's what I was taught.
But I have also studied other religions and got to know all their beliefs and all that good stuff.
And I truely within myself believe in the things taught in Christianity and the morals and such.
So no, I'm not going to rant.
Just answer the question.

Have you also thought about the logical fallacies within the religion?

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by skylar the strange on 10-18-2009 5:17 pm

Ningage wrote:
skylar the strange wrote: Ok. Why I am a Christian:
Sure, that's what I was taught.
But I have also studied other religions and got to know all their beliefs and all that good stuff.
And I truely within myself believe in the things taught in Christianity and the morals and such.
So no, I'm not going to rant.
Just answer the question.

Have you also thought about the logical fallacies within the religion?


I'm pretty experienced with making things that other people don't think are logical logical.

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by KittensKill on 10-18-2009 6:56 pm

skylar the strange wrote: And I have morals.
Like the 7 deadly sins.
the 7 deadly sins are now morals??? Shocked
also, are you saying other people dont have morals?

skylar the strange wrote: And I don't diss other religions.
I have friends of every religion.
Like, seriously.
So I accept everyone.
And I try to spread my religion like a good little Christian but if you absolutely don't believe in it and do not want to then I can't change that.
the contradiction, can you see it? because i can.

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RE: The Official Religion Thread

by ZoesLover on 10-18-2009 7:05 pm

Yupp atheists are bound to hell. So therefore none of them have morals even though some of them are millionaires and donate their fortunes to starving kids while a guy my grandpa knows goes to church every sunday and steals the money for the donations. That guy has so many morals because he goes to church each and every sunday and announced jesus as his personal saviour.

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Re: RE: The Official Religion Thread

by KittensKill on 10-18-2009 7:30 pm

ZoesLover wrote: That guy has so many morals because he goes to church each and every sunday and announced jesus as his personal saviour.
sad, isnt it?
the louder you declare you are christian, the better your chance of gettin in upstairs.
its just a pity people misinterpret the bable

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Re: RE: The Official Religion Thread

by ZoesLover on 10-18-2009 7:35 pm

KittensKill wrote:
ZoesLover wrote: That guy has so many morals because he goes to church each and every sunday and announced jesus as his personal saviour.
sad, isnt it?
the louder you declare you are christian, the better your chance of gettin in upstairs.
its just a pity people misinterpret the bable


Or who just use the sections they want.

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Re: RE: The Official Religion Thread

by KittensKill on 10-18-2009 7:43 pm

ZoesLover wrote: Or who just use the sections they want.
hmm yes.
like you should kill your kids if they talk back, and an un betrothed woman is forced to marry her rapist, and you should kill gays

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by PoptartsBleedJellyNoMore on 10-22-2009 9:03 pm

Lately I've been having to explain myself oftenly about what I am, everyone automatically assumes if you have no religion then you don't have any belief in God thus making you Atheist. But really, I do believe there is some form of a Deity but not in any ways supporting the way God may be described in the Bible, Torah, or Quran. God himself didn't write it, humans did, so it's very unlikely that any more than 25% is true to some extent, and mind you, they were easily impressionable in the past.

That made me think about Creationism vs. Evolution, it's hard to wrap around your head how humans came to be what they are now, and how animals and plants serve a function in life that creates a system of stability in the world. If it's instinct, where did the instinct come from? Why couldn't God have influenced us through Evolution, made us into what we are now using nature itself?

And I see some of you arguing about Sin, and morals and all these ethics, who is to say that God didn't commit acts of, so-called, evil, and these complex feelings that can't be rationalized. No one can prove that he's the epitome of goodness, maybe he doesn't dictate the outcome of your life by your behavior but by how he feels, or he just made us an exception because it was his wish, and maybe he's just like us, or we're the reflection of what he is. Couldn't he himself could possess such emotions that could lead to these acts, and gave them to us?

Then there's the wonder of what the meaning of life is. Couldn't we just be experiments to God, I mean, like I said, it seems all living things serve some purpose and we're just going,'Hey dude, what am I doing here?' We just improve ourselves by ruining everything else, that's kinda what it feels like. If God has power, why can't we just be experiments of his powers? But then, I thought about us, as a whole, but a small part in the universe, like the ants we see everyday, tiny creatures that we dismiss, but what if that's us? What if we're the tiny ants to the Universe, what if we're so insignificant that God doesn't keep check on us, what if there's something beyond us that's more important? And everything else happening is just a chain of effects that started by God's power, or naturally, or a disturbance caused by us, I don't know, this is just something none of us can truly comprehend.

But then, that beckons the question, where did God originate himself? It just boggles my mind.

I think I just believe in a God because I need some sort of explanation for everything, a way to comfort myself I guess.

I discussed this with one of my teachers, and he told me to search up Deism.

Totally disregard my post if you're going, 'LOLWHUT?'

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by KittensKill on 10-22-2009 10:37 pm

PoptartsBleedJellyNoMore wrote: so it's very unlikely that any more than 25% is true to some extent,
they're fables, folk tales, which do contain some element of truth, but more than anything, fables are for teaching.

Why couldn't God have influenced us through Evolution, made us into what we are now using nature itself?
thats plausible. especially if you don't think in the context of the christian/jewish/islamic god. If you think of it as being a creator and little more, then yes, its a possibility.

Couldn't he himself could possess such emotions that could lead to these acts, and gave them to us?
man being in the image of god. makes sense. But, personally, i think god was made in the image of man.

Then there's the wonder of what the meaning of life is.
Why does there need to be a meaning?

Couldn't we just be experiments to God, I mean, like I said, it seems all living things serve some purpose and we're just going,'Hey dude, what am I doing here?' We just improve ourselves by ruining everything else, that's kinda what it feels like. If God has power, why can't we just be experiments of his powers?

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?



But then, that beckons the question, where did God originate himself?
good question, and why must god be male?

I think I just believe in a God because I need some sort of explanation for everything, a way to comfort myself I guess.
god is a crutch

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by PoptartsBleedJellyNoMore on 10-22-2009 11:13 pm

KittensKill wrote:

Couldn't he himself could possess such emotions that could lead to these acts, and gave them to us?
man being in the image of god. makes sense. But, personally, i think god was made in the image of man.

Well, I thought God was made in the image of what man should be, behavior wise I mean.


Then there's the wonder of what the meaning of life is.
Why does there need to be a meaning?
There doesn't, but in Religion and well, pretty much everywhere, it's often asked, but it they make it seem like God only asks of us to think of him and worship and abide by his 'rules'. It just seems strange how everything seems to work together in the world, in nature without humans I mean, and we just stick out.

Or. There is no meaning, this is all a test, HE'S WATCHING YOU. <,<


Couldn't we just be experiments to God, I mean, like I said, it seems all living things serve some purpose and we're just going,'Hey dude, what am I doing here?' We just improve ourselves by ruining everything else, that's kinda what it feels like. If God has power, why can't we just be experiments of his powers?

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

Good point.



But then, that beckons the question, where did God originate himself?
good question, and why must god be male?
It's just assumed I guess since males are known as the dominate ones and play a certain role in a household, the household being us.

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by KittensKill on 10-22-2009 11:23 pm

PoptartsBleedJellyNoMore wrote: Well, I thought God was made in the image of what man should be, behavior wise I mean.
go read the old testament
god is a 3 year old who cant get his own way

they make it seem like God only asks of us to think of him and worship and abide by his 'rules'.
a perfect example of god being made in the image of man

It's just assumed I guess since males are known as the dominate ones and play a certain role in a household, the household being us.
But isnt it the female that is seen as the nurturing one?
i can understand the concept of a female god giving birth to the universe.
the biblical god is a foolish leader, a 3 year old who cant get his own way

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