The Official Religion Thread

KittensKill wrote:

HxC FiALURE wrote: ]satan tempted them an...
OH I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT, DAN.
They were capable because God made them capable. Therefore, he created sin

why does satan always get blamed? satan is just one of many names for a fallen angel, sin and evil existed long before anyone fell, and since god created all, god also created sin and evil.
unless someone is suggesting that someone other than god is capable of creation?

I was saying according to the bible, satan caused it.
But I agree with you, god created it. Then he casts in hell anyone who doesn't repent for their sin. Hardly seems fair, does it?

This is all, of course, assuming these entities exist. Which they may not ^-^

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Travis Murderface wrote: Religion is a way of controlling the masses. It only sets guidelines to follow to keep people doing the right thing. Do Good go to heaven, do bad go to hell.


but not once does god or jesus say themselves that if your good you go to heaven and if you are bad you go to hell





I don't believe in religious figures.

ever heard of the phrase-
"Wo unto the liar for he will be thrust down to hell?"
not to be all religious on you or anything but it actaully DOES say many things about hell and heaven and your eternal salvation

XtorchicX wrote: not to be all religious on you or anything but it actaully DOES say many things about hell and heaven and your eternal salvation

and who's to say the bible is the source of truth?
the bible says it.
how can you trust that?
you can't.

HxC FiALURE wrote:

XtorchicX wrote: not to be all religious on you or anything but it actaully DOES say many things about hell and heaven and your eternal salvation

and who's to say the bible is the source of truth?
the bible says it.
how can you trust that?
you can't.

and in addition to that
which bible?
and why would anyone believe a book written hundreds of years after the supposed events?
and why believe the bible over the torah or the koran?

also

KittensKill wrote: from another thread

KittensKill wrote:

flowmo wrote: Religion is funny.. We look at ancient cultures and almost everyone can agree that their beliefs were untrue, yet you can't convince a muslim, jew, or christian that they are also riding an ancient crutch.

this
... this is why i cant understand religion

KittensKill wrote:

HxC FiALURE wrote:

XtorchicX wrote: not to be all religious on you or anything but it actaully DOES say many things about hell and heaven and your eternal salvation

and who's to say the bible is the source of truth?
the bible says it.
how can you trust that?
you can't.

and in addition to that
which bible?
and why would anyone believe a book written hundreds of years after the supposed events?
and why believe the bible over the torah or the koran?

also

KittensKill wrote: from another thread

KittensKill wrote:

flowmo wrote: Religion is funny.. We look at ancient cultures and almost everyone can agree that their beliefs were untrue, yet you can't convince a muslim, jew, or christian that they are also riding an ancient crutch.

this
... this is why i cant understand religion

exactly
christians act like their religion is DEFINITELY the correct one...because they have the BIBLE and the bible is the WORD OF GOD.
but wheres the proof?
"THE BIBLE IS THE PROOF."
how bout no.
i guess all religions are like that too, but christians seem to be the most troublesome. ok, believe what you want. don't shove it down my throat.

religion..just...meh.

HxC FiALURE wrote:

KittensKill wrote:

HxC FiALURE wrote: ]satan tempted them an...
OH I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT, DAN.
They were capable because God made them capable. Therefore, he created sin

why does satan always get blamed? satan is just one of many names for a fallen angel, sin and evil existed long before anyone fell, and since god created all, god also created sin and evil.
unless someone is suggesting that someone other than god is capable of creation?

I was saying according to the bible, satan caused it.
But I agree with you, god created it. Then he casts in hell anyone who doesn't repent for their sin. Hardly seems fair, does it?

This is all, of course, assuming these entities exist. Which they may not ^-^

God didn't make it. He allowed it. God doesn't make everything, the devil has some handywork here and there.

Narcotic Bliss wrote:

HxC FiALURE wrote:

KittensKill wrote:

HxC FiALURE wrote: ]satan tempted them an...
OH I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT, DAN.
They were capable because God made them capable. Therefore, he created sin

why does satan always get blamed? satan is just one of many names for a fallen angel, sin and evil existed long before anyone fell, and since god created all, god also created sin and evil.
unless someone is suggesting that someone other than god is capable of creation?

I was saying according to the bible, satan caused it.
But I agree with you, god created it. Then he casts in hell anyone who doesn't repent for their sin. Hardly seems fair, does it?

This is all, of course, assuming these entities exist. Which they may not ^-^

God didn't make it. He allowed it. God doesn't make everything, the devil has some handywork here and there.

but if he created everything, he created sin. or at least the possibility of sin occurring.
but yes, he allowed it. which means everything that has resulted from sin. god allowed.
yet he wants people to worship him. hah.

HxC FiALURE wrote:

Narcotic Bliss wrote:

HxC FiALURE wrote:

KittensKill wrote:

HxC FiALURE wrote: ]satan tempted them an...
OH I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT, DAN.
They were capable because God made them capable. Therefore, he created sin

why does satan always get blamed? satan is just one of many names for a fallen angel, sin and evil existed long before anyone fell, and since god created all, god also created sin and evil.
unless someone is suggesting that someone other than god is capable of creation?

I was saying according to the bible, satan caused it.
But I agree with you, god created it. Then he casts in hell anyone who doesn't repent for their sin. Hardly seems fair, does it?

This is all, of course, assuming these entities exist. Which they may not ^-^

God didn't make it. He allowed it. God doesn't make everything, the devil has some handywork here and there.

but if he created everything, he created sin. or at least the possibility of sin occurring.
but yes, he allowed it. which means everything that has resulted from sin. god allowed.
yet he wants people to worship him. hah.

He created Lucifer. When Lucifer tried to be God/like God. He cast him into hell. He made Lucifer, Lucifer made sin. He allowed Eve to sin. Which created a domino effect.

Narcotic Bliss wrote:
He made Lucifer, Lucifer made sin.

Exactly.

If he's all powerful, then he could have changed Lucifer however he wanted, so that sin didn't come about. He could have simply not created Lucifer, or he could have taken away Lucifer's power to create sin, but he didn't, because it was all part of His plan.


So, why would he create/allow sin, knowing that it would send billions of people to eternal torment?

Doesn't sound very loving to me. >_>

I don't believe in anything.

Believe in something if you want, but don't shove it down my throat, because I'm not going to waste my life believing in something we can never prove is there.

.. everyone knows that the universe was created by the big bang, but what created the big bang? wat force was strong enough for such and explosion of energy, why is there nothing? some believe a god/gods/goddesses did this, but then wat created them? are they not governed under these laws? did they need to be created?

the bible was hand picked by biased writers from the gospels..there are alot of gospels if i remember correctly they only used parts of 4, religion was created to explain occurences lightining etc and to explain our existence, to give us a reason to act mature and not beat eachother with sticks all day XD, but it was also created for people to control the masses

this is not a discussion where you can say god/gods/godesses exist or that they dnt, because you dnt know, i dnt know i guess we'll find out who's right and who isnt when we die XD personally im hoping there is, but just because i hope there is doesnt mean that there will be

aetheist believe there isnt a higher power because no one can prove it to them, well prove there isnt... you cnt? well i guess we're in the same boat then huh? lets not fight about it XD

joshcyco wrote: aetheist believe there isnt a higher power because no one can prove it to them, well prove there isnt... you cnt? well i guess we're in the same boat then huh? lets not fight about it XD

People can prove it and have proven it.

Theists just prefer not to see the proof given.

This still makes no sense to me.

I'm Buddhist as shit.

The guide or guides for a religion are no match for the practice of the religion by the individual.
The one practicing the religion defines what the religion is. The guides just help a wee bit.

Most of you won't get it. I barely get it and I wrote it.

I guess what I'm getting at is that when you remove the labels and the generalizations all we are and all we believe in is what we do when we're alone, by ourselves.

Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that BrawnyMan is Buddhist if he's not lying?

I used to have a Buddhist phase, it's the most logical of religions. Srs. But nao I'm just a sad ol' Atheist who appreciates Buddhist philosophy.
Still incorporate it into everyday life.