RACISM + CHILD ABUSE(edited)

by God on 03-25-2008 7:46 pm

Enough of what..?

I'm simply impersonating a dumbass racist white man to prove a point.

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by Eternity on 03-25-2008 8:31 pm

InnocentDemon wrote: Um.. this is an ok thread but you really got me when you first posted it....

Didn't make sense...



Anyway...

I don't see anything wrong with spanking a kid but I obviously don't think they should be "beaten" like leaving bruises and making cuts and blood etc. That's just wrong.


On racism... I think racism is stupid. I think it's stupid that children are even taught about racism.... I know people will say that history needs to be learned and stuff but it's been quite a while since the days of slavery in the Americas. Something that seemingly is failed to be acknowledged is that other tribes of Africans sold each other to the whites. It's all about how evil the white man is for buying them not about how evil the other tribes were for capturing and selling them. It was terrible all the way around. There were even cases of white slaves. There has been slavery in just about every society at one point or the other. I really am thinking it would be best if this was left out of our history lessons... it breeds feelings of false superiority... guilt.... victimization.. it's terrible to ingrain that in a child's mind... children aren't usually racist.. they see a white kid or a black kid or whatever and they just see someone to play with. An adult sees a white person and they see an oppressive cracker, they see a black person and they see a lazy n*gger. (I hate that word btw)
I think people of all races can be smart and beautiful and talented.

Duh, it's stupid. But there are people who actually say really mean things to others.
btw, maybe making this thread wasn't a good idea.

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by TreverCutingham on 03-26-2008 7:24 pm

u now theres more than one way to abuse a kid right. it dosent have to just b hiting. it can be emotional and..... sexual.....
eny way i think eny one who abuses a kid should die!!! yes die!! idc if its inhuman!!

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by stabby stabby on 03-27-2008 8:17 am

child abuse it wrong,so is racisum,but i was brought up racist so i have had 2 go back on everything i was 'taught' subconciasly

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by Deuce on 03-27-2008 10:22 am

Subtle racism is the most dangerous form of racism. It is endemic in our culture. People don't like admitting it, but they will treat blacks and whites very differently based upon stereotypes. I do it, and I (wrongly) consider myself free of prejudice. Both liberal and conservative friends of mine have made comments about people of other ethnicity/religion, particularly in relation to crime/sex/intelligence, that have been blatantly racist.

Blacks, whites, liberals, conservatives (see how I made it easy for you Americans? Wink) - all are trapped in this narrow bandwidth of their own groupthink reality. We are so much alike, it is almost scary. The only thing that keeps us from becoming identical twins are some minor details - light changes in our nuances.

Do you think you have any chance to stem the tide of hatred, anger and oppression? I say, the hope lies within education - something that parts of the world lacks, and parts where it falls beyond the standard of being 'good'. Throughout the world, cosmetic progress has been made since WWII regarding racism, but that is not even scratching the surface of the problem - it is but masking it up with pretty words.

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by InnocentDemon on 03-27-2008 10:47 am

Deuce wrote: I (wrongly) consider myself free of prejudice.

Blacks, whites, liberals, conservatives (see how I made it easy for you Americans? Wink) - all are trapped in this narrow bandwidth of their own groupthink reality.

I find that offensive.

I mean really, we could be having a serious and meaningful discussion here but then I see crap like this.

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by Deuce on 03-27-2008 11:33 am

InnocentDemon wrote:
Deuce wrote: I (wrongly) consider myself free of prejudice.

Blacks, whites, liberals, conservatives (see how I made it easy for you Americans? Wink) - all are trapped in this narrow bandwidth of their own groupthink reality.

I find that offensive.

I mean really, we could be having a serious and meaningful discussion here but then I see crap like this.

Oh, please. I'm just pointing out the fact that there only seems (put some extra emphasize on the 'seems', if you wish) to be two political systems in America. I bet people who aren't used to seeing anything else than liberals and conservatism being mentioned, would be confused by the other system, or their existence all together. Even you need to learn to laugh at things, whether they be serious or not.

And so far, only 3 people have made any meaningful and serious contributions in this topic: You, curiousgeorge and myself. If you dismiss my entire post because of that one line (true as it may be, I can understand getting offended by it, but really), things have gone very wrong somewhere along the road.

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by InnocentDemon on 03-27-2008 11:40 am

OK your post actually did have some thought put into it but making comments like that really isn't a good debating technique.

Being in these narrow mindsets are indeed the result of the group. It is often dismissed in this way. I can't believe the outrageous claims made recently about Senator Obama's preacher and his hate speech against white as "a part of the black community". As if it's normal and should be accepted. That offends me far more than for example thinking Hmm... I don't think I'll walk down this alley since that's where a lot of black guys hang out, or being ridiculously careful with what you say around someone in case they might take it the wrong way even if it's how you normally would speak.

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by The Face on 03-27-2008 11:42 am

Do you know what I hate?
Black history month.
I hate it a lot, where's white history month?
Asian history month?

This is done in England, I'm not sure if it's done anywhere else, basically in school you have so many assembly's on black scientists & the like & you have to learn about them, even if they've really done nothing just because they're black, it's in all the papers, over t'internet, on TV.

If all people are supposed to be equal then why have BHM?
Surely that's showing people that this is white, this is black, they're both different. Also, whenever I bring this point up I get called racist & I'm very, very left-wing.

There's these posters in my school which say 'DIVERSITY' in huge letters on them, but it isn't diversity because every single person on those posters are black. It's so annoying.

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by InnocentDemon on 03-27-2008 11:45 am

Apparently some people think the whole year is white history and that one month is for blacks.

I don't agree with that either. I think there should just be plain "history". I mean what's the point of dividing it by race?

It would be so dumb if there were some teacher out there who was like "well I can't tell you guys about George Washington Carver until February even though that's what happened next chronologically in our text book so let's skip over that".

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by Deuce on 03-27-2008 12:15 pm

InnocentDemon wrote: OK your post actually did have some thought put into it but making comments like that really isn't a good debating technique.

That comment was made not in the belief that it would add something useful to this 'debate' (come on - let's call a spade a spade; it's more a discussion than anything, seeing as how everyone agrees with one another). The comment is simply a testimony of the boredom I am going through as of right now.

Racism doesn't make much sense to me. Among scientists, the current consensus seems to be that we're all from Africa, originally, unless I've missed something important. The 'aryan traits': blue eyes, blonde hair, white skin etc. are a genetic anomaly - they are only a few tens of thousands years old, if my memory serves me correct.

Something that greatly annoys me is the double standard society puts forward, by allowing (and thus sending out the message that they're right) people who come from minority based groups to say racist things, and the notion that by saying "I'm not ______, but..." (you can fill the blank with racist, sexist or whatever) before saying the most racist thing ever, will somehow excuse them. Racism is not limited to whites only. It exists everywhere.

And, I agree with what has been said in the last few posts. By doing this, you're creating a 'us and them' kind of thinking, which is counter-productive when it comes to fighting racism and prejudices. Though as curiousgeorge has mentioned (even if it was done to spark some debate, and he may not believe it), ignoring the fact that there are differences is stupid.

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by Unplugged on 03-27-2008 2:47 pm

@Deuce: we all know it's your second account, and therefore you are to be banned.

@God: if you're impersonating someone, make sure you make that clear. You're a real fool for saying it this way.

@the topic: I think we all agree that racism and beating of kids is a bad thing. At least I do. And a 'black history month' sounds so freakin' stupid, I can't believe it. Who the heck started it, and how the heck did people agree on this?! It's retarded!

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by BLiNdFaNaTiC on 03-27-2008 6:25 pm

well reason why theres black history month is because people believe that
blacks didnt have any fairness, they were in the united states for crucial matters, ie. slaves,labors,treated differently
so they decided to make blacks important which i personally think is
alright, there are alot of blacks who made a different but as the person
before stated where the hell is asian month?
there equally important.

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by Pope on 03-27-2008 6:58 pm

im straight up azn but i don't need any asian month to feel respected. it's fine the way it is. quite frankly, things like these shouldn't even be bothered because it just subjects people to think that some people need more attention because they have been treated as inferior. for all its worth, it actually is a subtle reminder of how the whites feeling of superiority still remains over the other races.

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by Deuce on 03-27-2008 7:03 pm

BLiNdFaNaTiC wrote: well reason why theres black history month is because people believe that
blacks didnt have any fairness, they were in the united states for crucial matters, ie. slaves,labors,treated differently
so they decided to make blacks important which i personally think is
alright, there are alot of blacks who made a different but as the person
before stated where the hell is asian month?
there equally important.

So, in your mind, spreading a "us and them" mentality is going to help fight racism and prejudices?

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