There is no such thing as non-conformity.
Sorry.

Pengrim wrote: There is no such thing as non-conformity.
Sorry.

Yes there is.

You kids are so easy to manipulate and fool.

Deuce wrote:

Pengrim wrote: There is no such thing as non-conformity.
Sorry.

Yes there is.

You kids are so easy to manipulate and fool.

Mmkay, explain.

Kk i'll explain, another name for it is... Being yourself.

Pengrim wrote:

Deuce wrote:

Pengrim wrote: There is no such thing as non-conformity.
Sorry.

Yes there is.

You kids are so easy to manipulate and fool.

Mmkay, explain.

The general definition of nonconformism is the refusal to conform to common norms, customs and rules.

Deuce wrote: The general definition of nonconformism is the refusal to conform to common norms, customs and rules.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. But wouldn't that mean that nonconformity is conforming to uncommon norms, customs and rules.

KittensKill wrote:

Deuce wrote: The general definition of nonconformism is the refusal to conform to common norms, customs and rules.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. But wouldn't that mean that nonconformity is conforming to uncommon norms, customs and rules.

To answer that question, we must first establish the three different ways to conform:

- doing so with the intention to imitate
- doing something that coincidentally imitates an already existing way
- indifference, where your inaction still leads to conformity

The first one is, in other words, conformity by choice. This is the way which gets the most amount of talk-time, as it is usually the only form of conformity people are aware of. An example that should be close to the heart of many a people in this forum: the will to conform to the emo trend, by adopting similar views that are popularised by this trend.

If you refuse to conform to social norms and standards, and instead choose to conform to the views of, say, a counter-culture/subculture, you're only different when compared against the mainstream. You are not a nonconformist.

The second way is more like individualism: you put your own norms and standards on a higher priority than those of others (state, government, people close to you etc), but some of your norms and standards might still be the same as for example, societies'. However, you are not conforming to societies' norms.

So it could almost be said that nonconformity does not exist, simply because by not conforming to societies' norms, you would end up conforming to to something else, even if its unintentional?

No. As I said, non-conformity exists, and it is as simple as this: if you refuse to conform to the common norms and guidances society has set out, you're a nonconformist.

The word conformity is meant to describe an action that has the intended meaning of enhancing a form of homogeneity.

If you fit into way #1, you're a conformist (this word isn't inherently bad, as so many of you would like to think). If you fit into way #2, you're a nonconformist: you have your own views and norms and put them on a higher piedestal than societies norms (or your families, social group's, government's etc). However, some/many of those views and norms might be similar to those shared in your social group or your society but that doesn't mean you are conforming to them.

Here's an important message that applies to the majority here: conforming isn't necessary bad. There are many, many cases where conforming is a positive thing - cases that you most likely don't even think about, because you are so blinded by your quest to be unique and different (another word which meaning you've missed).

Deuce wrote: STUFF

THANKS FOR CLARIFYING.

Deuce wrote: No. As I said, non-conformity exists, and it is as simple as this: if you refuse to conform to the common norms and guidances society has set out, you're a nonconformist.

The word conformity is meant to describe an action that has the intended meaning of enhancing a form of homogeneity.

If you fit into way #1, you're a conformist (this word isn't inherently bad, as so many of you would like to think). If you fit into way #2, you're a nonconformist: you have your own views and norms and put them on a higher piedestal than societies norms (or your families, social group's, government's etc). However, some/many of those views and norms might be similar to those shared in your social group or your society but that doesn't mean you are conforming to them.

Here's an important message that applies to the majority here: conforming isn't necessary bad. There are many, many cases where conforming is a positive thing - cases that you most likely don't even think about, because you are so blinded by your quest to be unique and different (another word which meaning you've missed).

conforming to non-conformity.

DistortedXreality wrote:

Deuce wrote: No. As I said, non-conformity exists, and it is as simple as this: if you refuse to conform to the common norms and guidances society has set out, you're a nonconformist.

The word conformity is meant to describe an action that has the intended meaning of enhancing a form of homogeneity.

If you fit into way #1, you're a conformist (this word isn't inherently bad, as so many of you would like to think). If you fit into way #2, you're a nonconformist: you have your own views and norms and put them on a higher piedestal than societies norms (or your families, social group's, government's etc). However, some/many of those views and norms might be similar to those shared in your social group or your society but that doesn't mean you are conforming to them.

Here's an important message that applies to the majority here: conforming isn't necessary bad. There are many, many cases where conforming is a positive thing - cases that you most likely don't even think about, because you are so blinded by your quest to be unique and different (another word which meaning you've missed).

conforming to non-conformity.

If you actively seek out to be 'different' (as is the case with many of the members here), you can say it's "conforming to (the idea) noncomformity".

Deuce wrote:

DistortedXreality wrote: conforming to non-conformity.

If you actively seek out to be 'different' (as is the case with many of the members here), you can say it's "conforming to noncomformity".

You speak the truth. Is that why people don't like you?

KittensKill wrote:

Deuce wrote:

DistortedXreality wrote: conforming to non-conformity.

If you actively seek out to be 'different' (as is the case with many of the members here), you can say it's "conforming to noncomformity".

You speak the truth. Is that why people don't like you?

I don't know, nor do I care - after all, why should I? In my eyes, most people here are insignificant to me, and will always remain that way.

I wouldn't say I'm speaking the truth, as I am merely speaking my own thoughts and opinions.

EDIT: I'm guessing you came to the conclusion that I am disliked since I have -6 karma, yes? That's only because someone used the karma glitch to spam me with negative karma.