Illegal Immigration

by Squire on 04-28-2008 4:12 pm

Orion wrote:
Squire wrote:
Orion wrote: the whole mid east thing has no profit.

Hahaha. Yeah, you're only there fighting for your freedom.

Orion wrote: And dont give me that "we're there for oil" shit.

How about reconstruction contracts, then? Being the bitch of Saudi Arabia?

Orion wrote: The world shouldn't be dependant on the USA.

It really is obvious you're an American.

Orion wrote:
Give a man a fish, and he'll only be hungry again. Teach a man to fish, and he will never go hungry.

You're not teaching anyone how to fish. You ignore things where you don't have anything to gain.
Wow.
Why do I always deal with the absolute far left.

So I suppose you think we have freedom in our own country? - Hardly.
Fighting for our freedom. Right now, nope. WWI? WWII? Yup.

Watch Charlie Wilsons War. Damn. Maybe you'll learn something that isnt a pile of crap.

Wow, indeed.

Absolute far left? A slight leaning to the left, if you will.

Do I think you have freedom in your country? Quite the opposite, and I have stated it many times. Since the beginning of this war, you've but lost many of your rights.

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by InnocentDemon on 04-28-2008 4:16 pm

Well I opened a can of worms didn't I?

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by Nexus on 04-28-2008 4:17 pm

Squire wrote:
Orion wrote:
Squire wrote:
Orion wrote: the whole mid east thing has no profit.

Hahaha. Yeah, you're only there fighting for your freedom.

Orion wrote: And dont give me that "we're there for oil" shit.

How about reconstruction contracts, then? Being the bitch of Saudi Arabia?

Orion wrote: The world shouldn't be dependant on the USA.

It really is obvious you're an American.

Orion wrote:
Give a man a fish, and he'll only be hungry again. Teach a man to fish, and he will never go hungry.

You're not teaching anyone how to fish. You ignore things where you don't have anything to gain.
Wow.
Why do I always deal with the absolute far left.

So I suppose you think we have freedom in our own country? - Hardly.
Fighting for our freedom. Right now, nope. WWI? WWII? Yup.

Watch Charlie Wilsons War. Damn. Maybe you'll learn something that isnt a pile of crap.

Wow, indeed.

Absolute far left? A slight leaning to the left, if you will.

Do I think you have freedom in your country? Quite the opposite, and I have stated it many times. Since the beginning of this war, you've but lost many of your rights.
I already said we hardly have rights. Thanks for restating the obvious.

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by Squire on 04-28-2008 4:23 pm

Orion wrote: I already said we hardly have rights. Thanks for restating the obvious.

You asked me if I thought you had freedom in your country - I replied. Then you reply back with the above? What the hell is wrong with you?

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by Pope on 04-28-2008 7:05 pm

to get back on topic, the problem with some illegal immigrants (and im not just talking about mexicans) is that they scream foul when their 'rights' get trampled. they fight for rights of their native country, hiding from authorities while belaboring on their own misfortune and the 'atrocities' they suffer. it's a hard world, and it's easy to put the blame on others.

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by Nexus on 04-28-2008 10:42 pm

Squire wrote:
Orion wrote: I already said we hardly have rights. Thanks for restating the obvious.

You asked me if I thought you had freedom in your country - I replied. Then you reply back with the above? What the hell is wrong with you?
I answered my own question unless you skim read.

Pope wrote: to get back on topic, the problem with some illegal immigrants (and im not just talking about mexicans) is that they scream foul when their 'rights' get trampled. they fight for rights of their native country, hiding from authorities while belaboring on their own misfortune and the 'atrocities' they suffer. it's a hard world, and it's easy to put the blame on others.

you mean how they were at L.A. waving Mexican flags around in, obviously, the USA?

Thousands got deported that day - go figure. Everyone waving such things were asked for proof of citizenship. Didn't have a green card either, BAM, deported.

Deporting costs money, obviously.

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by XLuLLiEX on 04-30-2008 7:03 pm

Because I am far too lazy to read all of the posts, I will just post my personal opion. Has anyone been to Mexico, not along the coast but in the "cities"? Like hell you people wouldn't be jumping over the boarder too, half of them are starving to death because of pocket picking politicians. Not many read, in order to become a citizen you have to take a government test, which also costs money, if you can't feed your family with whtat you have, and you cant read or write, how can you even attempt to become legal. Also, when you are in Texas or California don't look at the Mexicans or hispanics like theuy don't belong, Americans are the ones who don't belong. We forced them into selling to us, so of corse there are going to be hispanics there, they were there first. That would be like me me moving to China with 100 people and decide to make a city American soil. Just like what America did to the native Americans, they were here first and got pushed out of their lands. Black people who hold grudges of the past, when their ancestors were slaves, have no idea what it was like. Native Americans were treated far worse than the slaves ever were. So, next time you think of making a racial joke at a hispanics's expense, think again, they have just as much right to be here, if not more, than all of us.

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by Nexus on 04-30-2008 7:35 pm

I think your making a mockery of this.
Alot of us have been. I'm not sure which "CITY" you've been to, but they're doing fine.

I do look at them like they dont belong, and I'm right, they don't. Legal residents do, and I look at legal residents normally. We never "tricked" anyone into selling us their land, they had an option, they took it, deal done.

Simply going to another country in attempt to solve your problems makes it worse for the whole. Sure it solves their problem in the SHORT time, but not longterm time. Also in long term time it puts MY STATE in debt $50 billion dollars a year because we give them more than the citizens here.

We aren't a socialist country, get over it.

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by TooSweet on 04-30-2008 7:41 pm

GRRR!!!

I AM HISPANIC!!!

(legally though, i was born here)

Did y'all know that OVER HALF OF THE MEXICANS TRY TO COME HERE FOR A BETTER LIFE ARE EITHER KILLED, RAPED, OR ARE IN THE ORGAN TRADE?!?!?!

Sorry, but this is a sore spot for me. Crying or Very sad

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by TooSweet on 04-30-2008 7:42 pm

XLuLLiEX wrote: Because I am far too lazy to read all of the posts, I will just post my personal opion. Has anyone been to Mexico, not along the coast but in the "cities"? Like hell you people wouldn't be jumping over the boarder too, half of them are starving to death because of pocket picking politicians. Not many read, in order to become a citizen you have to take a government test, which also costs money, if you can't feed your family with whtat you have, and you cant read or write, how can you even attempt to become legal. Also, when you are in Texas or California don't look at the Mexicans or hispanics like theuy don't belong, Americans are the ones who don't belong. We forced them into selling to us, so of corse there are going to be hispanics there, they were there first. That would be like me me moving to China with 100 people and decide to make a city American soil. Just like what America did to the native Americans, they were here first and got pushed out of their lands. Black people who hold grudges of the past, when their ancestors were slaves, have no idea what it was like. Native Americans were treated far worse than the slaves ever were. So, next time you think of making a racial joke at a hispanics's expense, think again, they have just as much right to be here, if not more, than all of us.

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by Nexus on 04-30-2008 7:44 pm

toosweet wrote: GRRR!!!

I AM HISPANIC!!!

(legally though, i was born here)

Did y'all know that OVER HALF OF THE MEXICANS TRY TO COME HERE FOR A BETTER LIFE ARE EITHER KILLED, RAPED, OR ARE IN THE ORGAN TRADE?!?!?!

Sorry, but this is a sore spot for me. Crying or Very sad

Read LA LINEA (it is in english)
I'm curious. Were your parents legal or are you a "border baby"? Had to ask because I know a majority of people such as yourself that say this when their parents just popped a baby out and bam, baby is legal.

And yes, I know of all those things; I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA. We warned that country, but they only made pamphlets on how to get to America and how to avoid certain dangers. so they arent exactly saying "let's fix the system" they're saying "lets take our problems over there, this is how you do it".

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by TooSweet on 04-30-2008 7:47 pm

Dad is Arabian, (no he is not a terrorist) Mom came over LEGALLY from Mexico. Her parents never came here though, which reminds me I have to give my grandma a call... Smile
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by Nexus on 04-30-2008 7:51 pm

toosweet wrote: Dad is Arabian, (no he is not a terrorist) Mom came over LEGALLY from Mexico. Her parents never came here though, which reminds me I have to give my grandma a call... Smile
So it was done by the book then. See no harm in asking.

And I never said anything about Arabians being terrorists Razz Unless they bring over an AK-47 Razz

But anyway my point is clear. Everything should be done legally. You can come to America just to work, go back home, repeat the process. But if you want to be an American, which means staying here permanently, you have to be American and conform to the ways you swear to (just like any country), not try to change it because of the background.

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by InnocentDemon on 04-30-2008 7:53 pm

Because I am far too lazy to read all of the posts, I will just post my personal opion. Has anyone been to Mexico, not along the coast but in the "cities"? Like hell you people wouldn't be jumping over the boarder too, half of them are starving to death because of pocket picking politicians. Not many read, in order to become a citizen you have to take a government test, which also costs money, if you can't feed your family with whtat you have, and you cant read or write, how can you even attempt to become legal.

That doesn't mean that I owe them social security benefits.
That doesn't mean that a criminal from Mexico should be able to be free in this country.
That doesn't mean that they should be taking jobs away from legal citizens.


XLuLLiEX wrote: they were there first.

If they have to cross a border they obviously were not there first.

That would be like me me moving to China with 100 people and decide to make a city American soil.

You have it a little backwards there.
That's what the Hispanics are doing. Moving to America and deciding to make a Mexican city.
Just like what America did to the native Americans, they were here first and got pushed out of their lands.

Those are completely different scenarios.
One was an official war (with Mexico) and the other was simply an invasion (of the Americas).



Black people who hold grudges of the past, when their ancestors were slaves, have no idea what it was like. Native Americans were treated far worse than the slaves ever were.

I am partially Native American but I am not going to take lightly what happened to the African slaves. Both were terrible and neither have anything to do with the modern situation people sneaking into the US illegally.

So, next time you think of making a racial joke at a hispanics's expense, think again,

I don't make jokes about them.


they have just as much right to be here, if not more, than all of us.

Hispanics do not have more of a right to be here than the Native Americans and they don't have more of a right to be here than legal citizens.

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by Nexus on 04-30-2008 7:55 pm

InnocentDemon wrote:
Because I am far too lazy to read all of the posts, I will just post my personal opion. Has anyone been to Mexico, not along the coast but in the "cities"? Like hell you people wouldn't be jumping over the boarder too, half of them are starving to death because of pocket picking politicians. Not many read, in order to become a citizen you have to take a government test, which also costs money, if you can't feed your family with whtat you have, and you cant read or write, how can you even attempt to become legal.

That doesn't mean that I owe them social security benefits.
That doesn't mean that a criminal from Mexico should be able to be free in this country.
That doesn't mean that they should be taking jobs away from legal citizens.


XLuLLiEX wrote: they were there first.

If they have to cross a border they obviously were not there first.

That would be like me me moving to China with 100 people and decide to make a city American soil.

You have it a little backwards there.
That's what the Hispanics are doing. Moving to America and deciding to make a Mexican city.
Just like what America did to the native Americans, they were here first and got pushed out of their lands.

Those are completely different scenarios.
One was an official war (with Mexico) and the other was simply an invasion (of the Americas).



Black people who hold grudges of the past, when their ancestors were slaves, have no idea what it was like. Native Americans were treated far worse than the slaves ever were.

I am partially Native American but I am not going to take lightly what happened to the African slaves. Both were terrible and neither have anything to do with the modern situation people sneaking into the US illegally.

So, next time you think of making a racial joke at a hispanics's expense, think again,

I don't make jokes about them.


they have just as much right to be here, if not more, than all of us.

Hispanics do not have more of a right to be here than the Native Americans and they don't have more of a right to be here than legal citizens.
Damn.

How could I forget all of that? Very Happy

But the most annoying is the social security benefits. . .

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