Ok I know how to use eyeliner thats not my problem my problem is I have black eyeline but when I put it on its not black its like a steel color...does anybody have a really good brand of eyeliner thats a deep black? thanx much.

Try "Love my Eyes", works for me!

mabyelline is good i use that
or mabye rimmel theyre black eyeliner is realllly pitch black lols

yeah, that too!

Thanx for the help one more thing....I'm not sure if its the eyeliner I was usuing or if its just me but I cant seem to get that thick smokey eyeliner look its always thin and plain looking any tips?

Damn, I can never get it right either.
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well, what I use is
Maybellene True colour.
and its the twisty kind
not the stick.

well
Almay has good eyeliner, i like using that. (its the twist up kind not the pencil) and theres one by them in a white tube that lasts a long time and is really dark, id tell you the name but i cant find mine

I got some liquid eyeliner a month ago, its by NYC it was cheap, but its really dark and stays on all day long

theres also a cheap (99 cent) brand i got at walgreens called jordana i didnt get black in that one, but they had tons of colors and if the black works the way the purple and teal did it should be dark and last a while, not as long at the others, though

there you go!=)